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BlackPeter

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Quote from: KW on May 13, 2023, 07:43 PMI'm more amazed that a story about a Tesla with scratches is the top news story.  But then as soon as Tucker Carlson announced he was moving to Twitter, I knew that the number of anti-Tesla stories would start ramping up, and I was not wrong. 

If your biggest complaint about a Tesla is that it was scratched in transit and the incompetant panelbeaters in NZ are incapable of repairing it, then they're doing ok.  Compare Ford as an example, which literally stop working as soon as they leave the dealership
https://9now.nine.com.au/a-current-affair/disgruntled-aussie-customers-call-out-ford-over-lemon-rangers/80c6dbca-91a0-40b5-98b0-b4d7b4b2a9ba

The article does not sound like it was an incompetent panel beater ... it sounds more like Tesla has a problem in doing the preparations for the paintwork. A panel beater does not need to expect to do the complete car if a new car comes to them to fix a few scratches.

Apart from the paintwork issues, it sounds however Tesla has major and systematic customer care issue.

But I guess if you feel that Tesla's customers care about Tucker Carlson's views, than this makes sense - people like that must have incredibly low standards and love to be lied at and kicked into the guts.

At the end however - it does not matter why negative reports appear about Tesla - low quality and bad customer service is long term bad for business.

I love it when the alt right fights their own dumb money :) ; Lets get out the popcorn ...

Win - win :);

KW

Quote from: BlackPeter on May 14, 2023, 11:38 AMThe article does not sound like it was an incompetent panel beater ... it sounds more like Tesla has a problem in doing the preparations for the paintwork. A panel beater does not need to expect to do the complete car if a new car comes to them to fix a few scratches.

It was taken to a panelbeater who made it worse each time they touched it

"Since then a panel beater, appointed by Tesla, has attempted to remove the scratches five times over the four-month period.

"Each time there is more damage and the scratches are still there," she said.
"The third time the panels were still damaged and there were white marks that look like burns from a heat lamp on the car.
"The car was wrecked."
Don't drink and buy shares in a downtrend, you bloody idiot.

BlackPeter

Quote from: KW on May 15, 2023, 02:12 PMIt was taken to a panelbeater who made it worse each time they touched it

"Since then a panel beater, appointed by Tesla, has attempted to remove the scratches five times over the four-month period.

"Each time there is more damage and the scratches are still there," she said.
"The third time the panels were still damaged and there were white marks that look like burns from a heat lamp on the car.
"The car was wrecked."

Well, if you insist its the panel beater, than clearly - it sounds like Tesla has not just significant customer service problems, they are not even able to select and manage capable suppliers. Allowing the same supplier to give you the run around for 5 months is pretty pathetic, isn't it? - and playing all these stupid games on the back of the customer is inexcusable. What idiot is running this company?

Maybe they would need somebody who knows how to run a company instead of an ego manic who only sees himself at the top plus a sourcing team knowing what its doing worth its salt? And don't let me start on their quality processes - this story sounds revolting, nobody in this organisation seems to care about the customer!

On the other hand - Customers are funny animals - they go away if they feel they are not wanted and pampered. Suppose this will happen to Tesla with the hype peak already fading away ... just another burnt out starlet.

Swala

Quote from: KW on Apr 23, 2023, 03:52 PMI watch a lot of shares in a downtrend, I just dont buy them. I wait.  And I'm watching Tesla 8) .  A lot of my momentum investing relies upon a breakout from a bottom, preferably after having based for a while.  And a new bull market requires new leaders, so you have to be looking out for them. 

Most of my day is spent looking for stocks making a move up on volume, or setting alerts on resistant levels that get triggered by price moves.  Breakout moves above the 200 day MA by definition require a stock to have been in a downtrend.  Since the aim is not to buy the bottom, but the first or second move higher in a new uptrend, you have to be watching a lot of stocks and be ready to pounce on them in order to maximise your return.

If Tesla moves back in to an uptrend, I'll be buying.  Until then, I just follow Elon's musings on Twitter and SpaceX launch videos lol

Tesla seem to be in a pretty good uptrend the past month or so, are you tempted yet?

BlackPeter

Quote from: Swala on May 30, 2023, 09:36 AMTesla seem to be in a pretty good uptrend the past month or so, are you tempted yet?

Still well below the MA200 - do you call that a pretty good uptrend? I guess everything else but Tesla seems to go up, so yes - Tesla is special ... but tempting?

Are you looking for shorting opportunities?

Onemootpoint

Both TSLA and F stocks jumped last week on news of a deal that will allow Ford EV's to charge at Tesla Supercharger stations in the U.S.A. and Canada.

KW

So Tesla sticks its nose above its 200 day MA, coinciding with news that its now gained the top spot as the global number one best selling car. 
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/china-was-top-market-tesla-model-y-worlds-best-selling-car-q1-2023-05-30/

Is it too early to jump in, I would still be a little cautious.  Its still got more work to do to get back into a sustainable uptrend, and I would like to see a vol breakout as well as a price one.  And it needs to hurdle that resistance level at $206.  

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Don't drink and buy shares in a downtrend, you bloody idiot.

Swala

I purchased last night with a 5 - 10 year horizon. I appreciate the road may well be rocky but firmly believe this company has tremendous upside.

Onemootpoint

You're probably right to think longer term. I think like may of the other big 'tech' companies out there it may come down first before it shoots up again. But then again I am mostly wrong.

Although not strictly a tech company (S&P) it appears to be just as cyclical and at times has a ridiculously high P/E, and then it comes down. And as is often the case the personality of the people at the top play a huge role. Mr Musk is no exception. The vehicles are popular but not perfect but should improve even more in time. Even F recently had only positives to say about TSLA and in fact struck a good deal with them last week.

But I am of opinion that the mega caps of the S&P are extremely overweight on the AI hype, and that includes TSLA. But who knows how high the share price  will go before it takes a rest.

It certainly is a fun stick....enjoy.

KW

;D  https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/tesla-drivers-activate-bioweapon-defense-mode-protect-against-wildfire-smoke

Tesla drivers are switching on an advanced air filtration system known as "Bioweapon Defense Mode" to shield against Canadian wildfire smoke blanketing the US Mid-Atlantic and Northeast states. 

Air quality alerts are at "hazardous" levels across the Baltimore–Washington metropolitan area to New York City. The unhealthy air is causing eye irritation and inducing coughing among many people, prompting those with severe health issues to seek a doctor. 

But those driving in certain Tesla vehicles are equipped with a HEPA filtration system capable of stripping the outside air of smoke and other harmful particles and systematically scrubbing the air inside the cabin to eliminate any trace of these particles. The result is the Bioweapon Defense Mode that drivers are switching on in a real-world test, proving that Tesla is ahead of the curve of major automakers. 
Don't drink and buy shares in a downtrend, you bloody idiot.

Red Baron

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Quote from: KW on Jun 09, 2023, 02:02 PMBut those driving in certain Tesla vehicles are equipped with a HEPA filtration system capable of stripping the outside air of smoke and other harmful particles and systematically scrubbing the air inside the cabin to eliminate any trace of these particles. The result is the Bioweapon Defense Mode that drivers are switching on in a real-world test, proving that Tesla is ahead of the curve of major automakers.

Jumped up publicity by Mr Musk, or other internet luminary having a laugh?

Hyundai have had hepafilters in their electric car air filtration zystems zince 2017, as have other ICE car makers before that.
https://pureflowair.com/collections/hyundai-ioniq-cabin-air-filters

No need to 'activate bioweapon defence mode'.  The hepafilter is an in line passive ventilation system component that vorks 'all ze time' (as no doubt it does in the Tesla as vell).

RB




KW

Quote from: Red Baron on Jun 09, 2023, 03:37 PMJumped up publicity by Mr Musk, or other internet luminary having a laugh?

Hyundai have had hepafilters in their electric car air filtration zystems zince 2017, as have other ICE car makers before that.
https://pureflowair.com/collections/hyundai-ioniq-cabin-air-filters

No need to 'activate bioweapon defence mode'.  The hepafilter is an in line passive ventilation system component that vorks 'all ze time' (as no doubt it does in the Tesla as vell).

RB


 "The automaker claims that the filter in the Model X is about 10 times larger than a normal car filter, and it is "100 times more effective than premium automotive filters," as it removes "at least 99.97% of fine particulate matter and gaseous pollutants, as well as bacteria, viruses, pollen and mold spores."
 
In the Model Y, Tesla activated the "bio-weapon defense mode," which is a function that basically pressurizes the cabin and forces all the air to go through the HEPA filter."

 

https://electrek.co/2022/01/26/tesla-demonstrates-hepa-filter-bio-weapon-defense-mode-keep-cabin-air-clean-video/
Don't drink and buy shares in a downtrend, you bloody idiot.

Red Baron

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Quote from: KW on Jun 09, 2023, 04:16 PM"The automaker claims that the filter in the Model X is about 10 times larger than a normal car filter, and it is "100 times more effective than premium automotive filters," as it removes "at least 99.97% of fine particulate matter and gaseous pollutants, as well as bacteria, viruses, pollen and mold spores."
 
In the Model Y, Tesla activated the "bio-weapon defense mode," which is a function that basically pressurizes the cabin and forces all the air to go through the HEPA filter."

 

https://electrek.co/2022/01/26/tesla-demonstrates-hepa-filter-bio-weapon-defense-mode-keep-cabin-air-clean-video/

Interesteeng, and thanks for the vurther link.  Pressurize the cabin to stop external leaks in vrom the door zeals. Then use a very large inlet vent vith a hepafilter the vidth of the car, vhich must then reduce to a smaller duct vith fan assistance to take the viltered outside air into the car.  Yes that vould vork.   But such a trick looks like a zolution looking for a problem, vhich is probably vhy such a thing has not been seen on passenger cars before.   A zimpler zolution vould be to adjust the air intake in your car from fresh to recirculating, until you are clear of the polluted air zone.   If that didn't vork in the place I lived, I am not sure I vould want to live in that place!  Even then, a hepafilter vill not stop the colourless and odourless 'CO' and 'NOx' toxic gas pollutants.

In my view pressurising the cabin space is a 'zissy zolution'.  An open air cockpit, goggles, and a leather helmet and jacket is the dress vor a 'bio-var'.  And if the smoke gets too thick, then 'push the joystick' and 'up you go'. 

RB




Onemootpoint

Quote from: Red Baron on Jun 09, 2023, 07:23 PMIn my view pressurising the cabin space is a 'zissy zolution'.  An open air cockpit, goggles, and a leather helmet and jacket is the dress vor a 'bio-var'.  And if the smoke gets too thick, then 'push the joystick' and 'up you go'. 

RB


Username checks out  :D  :D

KW

Quote from: Red Baron on Jun 09, 2023, 07:23 PMIn my view pressurising the cabin space is a 'zissy zolution'.  An open air cockpit, goggles, and a leather helmet and jacket is the dress vor a 'bio-var'.  And if the smoke gets too thick, then 'push the joystick' and 'up you go'. 

RB


But there is no "dog mode" in an open air cockpit.  If Snoopy says so, he's lying.
Don't drink and buy shares in a downtrend, you bloody idiot.