Politics

[Waltzing]

Remember the last lot ... transparent government she said...

this guys must have hidden plans... they are going to sell the family silver to pay for the tax cuts...

there goes the behives dinner silver wear...

[Ferg]

Interesting speeches from Luxon, Seymour & Peters.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/11/election-2023-christopher-luxon-announces-ministers-winston-peters-and-david-seymour-to-job-share-deputy-prime-minister.html

[Minimoke]

I am feeling very positive for NZ tonight. Finding it very hard to fault anything at all about today's agreement. Now all they need to do is deliver.

[Hectorplains]

"Interesting speeches from Luxon, Seymour & Peters."

I suppose unhinged could be considered "interesting."  Peters' angry old man routine has become his default.  His raging against the media is pointless posturing. 

[Breezy]

I am feeling very positive for NZ tonight. Finding it very hard to fault anything at all about today's agreement. Now all they need to do is deliver.

Yep after a very tough last few yrs on the personal front I'm feeling very content with the new coalition Govt. Labour under Ardern did massive damage to the country and the Greens are basically a bunch of Woke nutcases these days (Jeanette and Rod would be rolling in their graves) TPM also a bunch of radicals not fit to have any influence on everyday kiwis. Thank goodness for a halt to the Apartheid regime along with all the other Woke nonsense that was in play, things were looking pretty grim. As a social conservative its a great result IMO.

[Hectorplains]

Fran O'Sullivan has come out as a full card carrying fangirl of the new coalition. 

[Ferg]

I suppose unhinged could be considered "interesting."  Peters' angry old man routine has become his default.  His raging against the media is pointless posturing.

To me it seemed like Seymour was the statesman, Luxon was the MC and Peters was the stroppy teenager.

In defence of Peters in that interview, the media could not get the phraseology right.  It must be very frustrating to constantly come across that and IMO good on him for putting them in their place.  Is it incompetence or purposeful on the part of the media?  I say both and they likely want to get a reaction because that makes great TV right?  They should have made him Minister of Broadcasting.

[Ferg]

full card carrying fan

Do you also use this description for media who support the other side?  If not, it doesn't really belong here...assuming we want meaningful discussions.

[Hectorplains]

Do you also use this description for media who support the other side?  If not, it doesn't really belong here...assuming we want meaningful discussions.

Have you read this article?  Fran Sullivan has been a very good journalist, for a long time.  Her right wing leaning has been tempered by the honesty and intelligence shown in her writing . She will criticise anything and anyone that she thinks warrants it.  I have enjoyed reading her work, even when I don't agree with her.  Today's effort though was sycophantic and utterly unbalanced, more what you'd expect of Mike Hoskings. 
I would use a similar expression for John Campbell - on "the other side." 

[Waltzing]

Ok they are going to sell the silver service at the beehive!!!!

Do they even need a chamber to shout int... just ZOOM it all...

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/mark-lister-is-it-time-for-more-asset-sales/T4ENJU5W6FDHXMSQ6XN3O3BMB4/

are they going to float anything? and if so does anyone know what that might be that is PROFITABLE to put on the NZX?

 

[Ferg]

Have you read her article?

I don't pay money to read any media.  I'm not sure I would read the article if it were free given I hold the NZ media in low regard and I place little to no value on their opinions.

Did you use the same description for the media who, amongst many other things, breathlessly reported the arrival of New Zealand's "first baby"?  (which was a very weird title to bestow on young Neve).  I'm curious to know if "full card carrying fan" only applies to journalists with right political leanings...or if it applies to both sides?  If we end up with some sort of balance in the political leanings of the media, is that such a bad thing?

Feel free to give me the gist of the article if you want to prove your point.  But right now all I am seeing is an attempted ad hominem argument without addressing any of the substance of the article, of which I am blissfully unaware and am happy to remain as such if you can't be arsed... 

[Hectorplains]

I don't pay money to read any media.  I'm not sure I would read the article if it were free given I hold the NZ media in low regard and I place little to no value on their opinions.

Did you use the same description for the media who, amongst many other things, breathlessly reported the arrival of New Zealand's "first baby"?  (which was a very weird title to bestow on young Neve).  I'm curious to know if "full card carrying fan" only applies to journalists with right political leanings...or if it applies to both sides?  If we end up with some sort of balance in the political leanings of the media, is that such a bad thing?

Feel free to give me the gist of the article if you want to prove your point.  But right now all I am seeing is an attempted ad hominem argument without addressing any of the substance of the article, of which I am blissfully unaware and am happy to remain as such if you can't be arsed... 

If you'd read all my edited reply you'd see that I state that I'd give the same title to Campbell who is an apostle of the left. 

However; the news of the day isn't Labour / the left.  C'mon, the birth of Neve was five or so years ago!  Here's O'Sullivan's opening sentence; "The vast ideological cloud that has permeated New Zealand politics and shrouded free speech for far too long has finally been punctured."  It only get's more rabidly reverential as it goes on... 

[Ferg]

If you'd read all my edited reply you'd see that I state that I'd give the same title to Campbell who is an apostle of the left. 

However; the news of the day isn't Labour / the left.  C'mon, the birth of Neve was five or so years ago!  Here's O'Sullivan's opening sentence; "The vast ideological cloud that has permeated New Zealand politics and shrouded free speech for far too long has finally been punctured."  It only get's more rabidly reverential as it goes on...

Great to hear that about Campbell.  BTW I didn't see your edited reply until now given I got distracted while posting and my reply quoted the entire post that existed at the time I started typing.

On reading the first sentence you quoted I thought "that's great!".  Finally we are no longer under the ideological cloud of a bunch of inept politicians with zero business experience.  So far so good!

[Waltzing]

According to the TE PA PA PAPA party this government is going to be a one term only ...

dont know, seymour the BAD M MAN came across all business and could be the bueacrates worst nightmare...
 
maybe ACT will get more votes the longer it keeps the Collection of diversity together and maybe LUX ON knows how to get people of varied personalities to work together...

maybe the next government will be a NATACT one...

will the young people of the country rebel and protest in the streets or will summer be here and they HIT the beach and forget all everything except fun and sun...

[Waltzing]

Tova pod casts

she highlights that 3oo workers at Ministry of  busy idiots complained about having to us english as there main language..

well does she not realise these people the first 300 to seek voluntary dumpings....

brilliant way to down size the government.... piss off all the workers and THEY LEAVE!!!!