Politics

[Minimoke]

Boy this thread just took off today!!!

"Who is MIM?"

Most Important Member...

I'm still none the wiser.

Anyhow moving on.

If something was of genuine public interest the public would want to read it. If lots of people want to read it advertisers would go "gee that's a good place to be advertising". If media had lots of advertisers wanting their space for advertising there would be lots more revenue from those advertisers. And if there was lots more revenue then there would be no need for the PIJF.

So, the logical conclusion is the government wanted to spread messages that were not in fact in the public interest. And to get those messages out they had to pay for it. And given the message were so unpalatable, advertisers wouldn't come to the party  the govt had to "bribe" the media to report those messages.

[Waltzing]

MIM stands for the profile name that has lots of M's and I's in it...

i think thats .. someone ..

"Minimoke"


 

[Waltzing]

" the govt had to "bribe" the media "

classic!

 and yes it seems to mean the public just doesnt want to read about CO Whatever and Woke messages of some new fad...

[Waltzing]

Summers coming and dont forget to stay hydrated!!!!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/wellington/301017682/wellington-mayor-tory-whanau-admits-alcohol-problem-i-am-a-flawed-person

well at least she did not crash her UTE into a car and run off into the bushes!!!

[Waltzing]

Looks like LUX ON thinks the fund was not a great idea...  it looks like the MEDIA loved it!!!

well who wouldnt like a program where you get free money with no strings attached and no monitoring beyond the  standards compaints drop box....

does the press not see it went beyond the normal model of business support from government being tax credits to being a welfare program.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/301017039/live-christopher-luxon-unveils-100dayplan-urgent-changes-coming-before-christmas

The PM, "the view about the public interest Fund is a view that's held by many New Zealanders, who say that it was not a good program or a good idea."

Looks like the Media has been living in the Jacinda day dream world and is now so far down the rabbit hole " we arnt in Kansas anymore."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQLNS3HWfCM
 

 

[Minimoke]

Well, heres a real test for our media and how good they are at investigative and honest reporting.

In one media today, a Wellington City councillor has said, that the mayor, in a full (but appears unreported) media release said words to the effect of "I was not involved in any sexual conduct"

On the flip side there are unsubstantiated / unverified reports of a video circulating widely that the Mayor (in her private capacity) has indeed been filmed in a sexual act while intoxicated at a public bar.

So the test is: what is the truth?

Once the truth is known it is then for Wellingtonians to start forming their own views of the suitability of their Mayor. And whether liquor licensing laws are being upheld

[Breezy]

MSM are sulking and attacking the new Govt because they think the people have elected the wrong Govt and their former gravy train has been cut off. Their woke and biased reporting over the last 6 yrs is now ineffectual.

[Waltzing]

is this one of those "i did not DO ANYTHING" moments... insert your favourite version. "I did not have xxx with that women" moment...

[Ferg]

Sean Plunket understands the bribery issue and how the media are gaslighting those who see it that way:

[Administrator]

Taken the axe to a few posts here, please keep it civil. Sometimes it is better to leave something unanswered than to slog it out on an internet forum 

[Breezy]

Taken the axe to a few posts here, please keep it civil. Sometimes it is better to leave something unanswered than to slog it out on an internet forum 

Or take it over to X , basically anything goes over there and you can let it all hang out if you wish.

[Waltzing]

Its interesting to see the view point of IWI leaders... that they are still working from the old Tribal Leader play book and havnt moved on in their base MODUS OPERANDI...

Modern (greek over 2000 years old) versus the Traditional ...

https://www.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/133361166/hap-breaks-silence-on-david-seymour-dont-ever-claim-that-you-are-ngti-rhia-if-you-want-to-tut-with-the-treaty

This speaks for itself and shows where democracy stands inside IWI..

"Epiha said Seymour's response was narcissistic and ignorant.

"Traditionally, one or two people would speak for the iwi. For Ngāti Rēhia, those are members of te taumata [the leaders' post].

"After weighing up the opinions of every whānau, te taumata makes the final decision, and it only needs to be said once."

[Waltzing]

Come on NZ ... its time to stop paying taxes and fire bomb the tax department.....

https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/taxpayers_union_offers_to_design_government_department_logos_for_free

[Waltzing]

really what ever happen to NZ political satire.. on well we can always watch reruns of get smart on JONES...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p4bLO6OPkI

[Waltzing]

Sir Ian Taylor has suddenly found socialism....

"I did not help any journos take that Bribe!"

https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/301019123/sir-ian-taylor-the-unintended-consequences-of-the-new-government

"i had nothing to do with any slush funds"!!