Change of government/changes

[Auto Rower]

Not wanting to upset any greenie red types ,but most folks are expecting /hoping for a change of government for the N Z .
And I think this will happen also. So the question I am pondering over is what the consequences could be for the business sector & the nzx in general .
I would say that farming & rural Industries will benefit along with the reits /property sector actually most things .
 I would be interested in your opinions fellow Stocktalkers .
And also will the nzx get a lift out from Bear territory eventually thanks to a more politically  business friendly Govt.
 Here's hoping 

[Waltzing]

well since the NZX has not been mentioned even once by the finance minister ? you would come think it does not exist of any of the parties in red and green...

But since some news  articles today appear to show the true colors of some of the most prominent ministers..

Facts? dont let them get in the road of a good bit of bating..

Anything has got to be better for the NZX and business than this last lot ...

And perhaps some standards could be implemented for transaction reporting from Brokers.

The big issues for he NZX will be kick starting the economy with investments and some radical policies to attract business and investment.

Radical is required and has never ever been tried... and removing depreciation from investment asset categories isnt going to help either.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/election-2023-on-the-campaign-september-8-what-you-missed-today/Q24DPBI2XFGKRMNKIRDNUWSMME/

[winner (n)]

Odds are  shortening and possibly even we'll get another Labour govt ...momentum going their way ...might need Peters but sobeit

Will this be good for NZ share market?

[Basil]

My betting friend says the Aussie bookmakers have a National Led coalition as $1.15 favorites, but you have to vote to make this happen.  Don't trust anything Winston says, he sold us down the river to the Devil 6 years ago.  I have gone and done my bit to vote to get rid of the worst and most divisive Govt there has ever been in New Zealand.  New Zealand is completely f****d if we get another 3 years of Labour...please vote to make sure this doesn't happen.

[Hectorplains]

My betting friend says the Aussie bookmakers have a National Led coalition as $1.15 favorites, but you have to vote to make this happen.  Don't trust anything Winston says, he sold us down the river to the Devil 6 years ago.  I have gone and done my bit to vote to get rid of the worst and most divisive Govt there has ever been in New Zealand.  New Zealand is completely f****d if we get another 3 years of Labour...please vote to make sure this doesn't happen.

NZ Herald reckons, "a mere 31,000 votes could be the difference in National and Act getting there {into power} alone."

[Untamed]

Election day may well bring some surprises/shocks. Interesting to see locally anyway, that a lot of people are voting early, including me. I have never done that before.

[Shareguy]

My betting friend says the Aussie bookmakers have a National Led coalition as $1.15 favorites, but you have to vote to make this happen.  Don't trust anything Winston says, he sold us down the river to the Devil 6 years ago.  I have gone and done my bit to vote to get rid of the worst and most divisive Govt there has ever been in New Zealand.  New Zealand is completely f****d if we get another 3 years of Labour...please vote to make sure this doesn't happen.

I have voted for both Labour and National in the past but agree with your views 100 percent. We need a change no doubt. I have never seen such a divided New Zealand.

[Shareguy]

They can't even get the voting packs out with days to the election. I wonder how many people have left the country and not voted because of it. No excuse. Had three years to prepare.

[Basil]

I have voted for both Labour and National in the past but agree with your views 100 percent. We need a change no doubt. I have never seen such a divided New Zealand.

I admit I was fooled once, (never again), by the way Labour managed the initial part of Covid and thought she did a good job with that.  Since then, it's clear the Labour Govt managed subsequent waves incredibly poorly, their lack of preparedness with RAT tests and Covid anti Viral's and the way they are allocated based on racist preferences to Maoir and pacific islanders is unforgiveable and is part of what sent the Auckland region into home detention for nearly 4 months. 

The way the whole be kind mantra has been extended to criminals in their softly softy approach, expecting them to reciprocate in kind is schoolgirl naïve.  She was once described in parliament as "a silly little girl", (I forget by who) but for me that sums her up very well.  The amount of spin coming from her over the years was nauseating to say the least. Whether chippie is any better, look it's hard not to be, the bar is so incredibly low lol, but the Māori caucus is clearly determined to send us back into the dark ages of extreme separatism and the Greens will tax the wealth out of this country so these extremists with their radical communist and separatist agendas cannot be allowed to govern again.
 

[BlackPeter]

Well, lets take a step back and look at the last 30 years in NZ.

Still 30 years ago the NZ education system was the envy of the world, and NZ had the lowest percentage of illiterate people in the OECD. Today more than 1/3rd of our students can't properly read or write when they leave school and overrall our students typically rank close to or at the bottom of international comparisons. Both right wing and left wing governments brought us there - none of them improved our education system, they both screwed it up - hand in hand.

National/ACT used to underfund the system (resulting in rotten schoolinfrastructure and leaving teachers) and Labour/Green by being too incompetent to fix the system and instead politicising it. Throwing money at teachers does not fix leaky buildings, neither does it fix lack of dscipline, lack of respect and a teaching approach without proper guidance for teachers.


Still 30 years ago it was no problem to find anywhere in NZ a GP if you needed one - and in case of an accident emergency departments did look after you without undue delay. These days you can consider yourself lucky to find a GP who is prepared to enroll you and give you an appointment in a handful of weeks - and the waiting times in emergency departments are often 6 hours plus. People are dying because they can't get access to proper medical treatment.

Both National governments and Labour governments did run our health system down, National/ACT by underfunding hospitals and care and Labour/Green by being too incompetent to fix the system. Instead of doing anything useful they created another two useless bureaucracies (a brown and a white variant ; Not sure, whether the new system could be made working, but no doubt National will dismantle it as soon as they get into power instead of fixing the system.


And actually - 30 years ago I found (coming from Europe) that NZ roads are not too bad. These days they are more a collection of potholes. Both National governments and Labour governments did run our infrastructure down, National/ACT by underfunding it and Labour/Green by being too incompetent to fix it. Apparantly Labour always first needs to install an expensive bureaucracy before they do anything useful, and until that could happen National is back and undues what Labour did without fixing the real problems.

No matter whether we will end up with a National / ACT / NZF government (though more likely) or a Labour / Green / Te Pati govenment (less likely, but possible), one thing will be sure - they will break their promises (they always do ...) - and they will keep to continue eroding our systems.

30 years ago our rivers and lakes have been clean - and both National/ACT as well as Labour/Green governments allowed their degradation. Try today to swim in one of our rivers ... and you have a good chance to get sick.

30 years ago we had clean fresh water coming out of our taps. Today it is basically treated sewage. Thanks to National/ACT and Labour /Green working together to allow our farmers to destroy our land, our water and our environment.


Maybe its time to stop this stupid game to always swap from the left to the right and than back to the left. Nothing is gained by it, money is wasted and our land goes down the gurgler.
 

I voted this time for common sense and a party in the centre ... they don't need to worry about stupid ideology, but they can focus on the issues.
 

[Jay]

Voted early as well, could be very interesting in my electorate.
To me looks to be more people about voting early than last time, Booth at the local supermarket that covers two electorates.
Not sure why act seems to be dropping, can't moving from them to Winstone???

[Red Baron]

I have voted for both Labour and National in the past but agree with your views 100 percent. We need a change no doubt. I have never seen such a divided New Zealand.

I vill be voting vor the return of direct control by the monarchy.  But not by the progeny of the gaffe prone Greek.  No, I am talking about the return of Kaiser Wilhelm II
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_II,_German_Emperor

"Wilhelm enthusiastically promoted the arts and sciences, as well as public education and social welfare. He sponsored the Kaiser Wilhelm Society for the promotion of scientific research; it was funded by wealthy private donors and by the state and comprised a number of research institutes in both pure and applied sciences. The Prussian Academy of Sciences was unable to avoid the Kaiser's pressure and lost some of its autonomy when it was forced to incorporate new programs in engineering, and award new fellowships in engineering sciences as a result of a gift from the Kaiser in 1900."

"Wilhelm supported the modernisers as they tried to reform the Prussian system of secondary education, which was rigidly traditional, elitist, politically authoritarian, and unchanged by the progress in the natural sciences. As hereditary Protector of the Order of Saint John, he offered encouragement to the Christian order's attempts to place German medicine at the forefront of modern medical practice through its system of hospitals, nursing sisterhood and nursing schools, and nursing homes throughout the German Empire. Wilhelm continued as Protector of the Order even after 1918, as the position was in essence attached to the head of the House of Hohenzollern."

Respect for the arts and sciences, more emphasis on the stem subjects and the restoration of our health system.   Zounds like a recipe vor zuccess to me.   Now I just have to locate the Kaiser on von of those party lists......

RB

[KW]

Voted early as well, could be very interesting in my electorate.
To me looks to be more people about voting early than last time, Booth at the local supermarket that covers two electorates.
Not sure why act seems to be dropping, can't moving from them to Winstone???

As National release more of their policies and start to firm up their election promises, they will draw some voters back from ACT.  Likewise NZ First will be doing the same.  More people are going to move within the Left or Right ecosystem than to move from Left to Right.  Winston is carving out 5-6% of the Right's vote.  If his traditional voters were Left based, they would have voted for him in 2020.  The fact NZ First didnt even make it back to Parliament proves that his voter base were mostly center-right not left.  Hopefully, he now realises this and won't do the dirty on them a second time.

[Onemootpoint]

We don't even know yet who's who in the new government but....


New Government doesn't exist yet, but business is happy with it

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/301000463/new-government-doesnt-exist-yet-but-business-is-happy-with-it

[Minimoke]

We don't even know yet who's who in the new government but....


New Government doesn't exist yet, but business is happy with it

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/301000463/new-government-doesnt-exist-yet-but-business-is-happy-with-it

Because its not going to be Labour/Greens/ Maori Party. Hurrah!