Politics

[BlackPeter]

Most gun lovers seem to be gangs who think nothing of shooting up neighborhoods with no doubt illegal guns.

Have you checked out NZ mean Sea level rise - basically nothing to see hear other than a well established century long linear trends. (And you might want to check out the IPSCC's latest report that has significantly reduced its 100 year temperature increase

The Antivaxxers are more aligned to Democracy NZ. Did you mean anti -mandate?

People of questionable character. Every party has those. And parliament is supposed to be a house of our representatives and who of us here are as pure as the driven snow?

Look - it sounds like you might be part of the problem. It doesn't feel we share the same values. It is easy to discourage undecided voters to support the centre right with populist statements like above - and you certainly won't convince anybody.

Sounds sort of self defeating to me, unless you want the Centre Left to win the next election.

[Minimoke]

Look - it sounds like you might be part of the problem. It doesn't feel we share the same values. It is easy to discourage undecided voters to support the centre right with populist statements like above - and you certainly won't convince anybody.

Sounds sort of self defeating to me, unless you want the Centre Left to win the next election.

Values tend to be based on emotion.

I prefer to look at the facts (which you seem to prefer to describe as a "populist statement". - hence my reference to NZ mean Sea Level rise. If you look at that (as just one example) you will see there is absolutely nothing to see here. Also check out the IPCC report - you will see they have revised their models downwards. Part of the solution will be people who can look at the facts - and create strategy based on those facts.

For the purposes of full disclosure I reckon the current government is Nz's worse ever. So anything thing that ensures they enjoy the next parliamentary term on the back benches is perfectly fine by me.

[Breezy]

It always is.

However - are we really sure the other side will be better? I shudder somewhat by the thought of gun lovers (ACT) climate change deniers (ACT), antivaxxers (ACT) and many untested candidates with questionable character (National) running the next government.

Honestly - I don't like the idea of a populist and race based left wing government either, but its a bit like the choice the ancient Greek sailors had when they had to choose whether they prefer to smash their boats against Skylla or allow Charybdis to destroy them.

So hard to find these days capable politicians representing the golden political middle.

 

Well I like small bore rifle shooting so must be a gun lover, I agree with Dr Judith Currys stance on climate change and I wasn't keen on the Pfizer vaccine but took 2 and no more thank you.

[Waltzing]

Local Government stuff.... stuffed ...  oh dear this lot look like real experts on future systems of funding.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/council-overhaul-mergers-and-billions-in-extra-funding-floated-to-future-proof-local-government/LCBXFO2LFZF4RKRFBPKVIAPDEE/

Notice the option for appointees...

 Obvious a whole lot of GOVT spending could be dumped for a start... 25 percent of staff fire and the rest listed on the market...

[BlackPeter]

Local Government stuff.... stuffed ...  oh dear this lot look like real experts on future systems of funding.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/council-overhaul-mergers-and-billions-in-extra-funding-floated-to-future-proof-local-government/LCBXFO2LFZF4RKRFBPKVIAPDEE/

Notice the option for appointees...

 Obvious a whole lot of GOVT spending could be dumped for a start... 25 percent of staff fire and the rest listed on the market...

I suppose another three waters rolling our way - just bigger!

[Waltzing]

A country where M Woods is PM in the next decade is truly astonishing ...

Hooten say yes he is in the running... COMIC country...

[winner (n)]

Bloody miserable Government not fronting up to help fund Taylor Swift gig ..so she not coming

Oz papers her two concerts over there possibly avoid a recession early next year ...so states and central govt front up.

Heck money for Americas Cup but not for Swifties ......what's the world coming to

[Waltzing]

Vote winner that one... the new world of sharing .. 

then Swift can save the economy...

[Waltzing]

Gosh its going to be RED under the Beds election adverts?  dancing Cossack?

https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/taxpayer_update_230624

[Waltzing]

They are taking up ARMS in the deep south!!!!

Blimey they are going to make a run up the island for wellington...

https://www.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/132418111/invercargill-mayor-nobby-clark-called-out-for-creating-massive-racial-divide-with-his-antimori-comments

[Minimoke]

They are taking up ARMS in the deep south!!!!

Blimey they are going to make a run up the island for wellington...

https://www.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/132418111/invercargill-mayor-nobby-clark-called-out-for-creating-massive-racial-divide-with-his-antimori-comments

Good on him I say.
3/Multi waters is a terrible thing. Along with proposed changes with the RMA reforms. (People unfamiliar with these things should learn about the power of the various Iwi Statements that are being provided for in these pieces of legislation.

In Canterbury we now have 2 unelected local Maori on our elected council. So if they don't perform we can't vote them out. And the problem with this "enhanced democracy" (as Willie Jackson likes to call it) is that its not just any Maori who get these seats, its Ngai Tahu. An originally northern tribe that entered the south island by conquest. And one of the tribes responsible for the deforestation of the south Island and extinction of several bird species.

And we now have a separate Maori Health Authority. Why? Men do not make use of health services and die  much earlier than women. If you want focused health care for an over represented part of the population it ought to be Men - since they make up approx 50% of the adult population.

[KW]

They are taking up ARMS in the deep south!!!!

Blimey they are going to make a run up the island for wellington...

https://www.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/132418111/invercargill-mayor-nobby-clark-called-out-for-creating-massive-racial-divide-with-his-antimori-comments

No thanks, you can keep the North Island.  We will be cutting the cable and defending the coastline from illegal NI asylum seekers arriving by boat.  

[Waltzing]

dont think the NI will be attempting the boat crossing till its warmer.... south safe at the moment...

[KW]

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[BlackPeter]

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There is a significant error on the passport - Clearly the country name must read: Mainland!