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Started by Waltzing, Dec 11, 2023, 04:15 PM

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Waltzing


Waltzing

Poland now says sending troups is possible...

https://kyivindependent.com/polish-fm-nato-forces-presence-in-ukraine-is-not-unthinkable/

Uk really just not getting it with its defence budget.. 3 percent now being talked about by military commentators as the new normal..


Waltzing



Waltzing

Sanction finally start to effect oil production and drones attacking oil depots has caused restriction on russian oil exports....

China imports it oil ... can it afford any sort of war with anyone?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/03/10/russian-oil-depot-hit-ukraine-kremlin-bans-fuel-exports/

BlackPeter

Quote from: Waltzing on Mar 11, 2024, 08:37 AMSanction finally start to effect oil production and drones attacking oil depots has caused restriction on russian oil exports....

China imports it oil ... can it afford any sort of war with anyone?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/03/10/russian-oil-depot-hit-ukraine-kremlin-bans-fuel-exports/

Good to see Ukraine paying back and hitting Russia where it hurts - bringing the war into Russia and reducing the money flow to the corrupt regime.

... and yes, good point re China. I guess its again the question, how long the Chinese people will keep quiet on Xi's journey to turn China into a big copy of North Korea.

Waltzing

Yes BP will XI suddenly find he is riding a tiger and it spirals into something he did not think would happen....

Once you start to control the people where does it stop...


Waltzing


kiwi2007

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A few interesting happenings...Russia using a lot more glide bombs (including the new guided type) against front line positions,  however this is bringing their SU's closer to danger. In response  Ukraine has pulled patriots or other long range anti aircraft missile systems forward and is bringing several down.
Ukraine also, sensibly, is spending more on defensive set ups to counter potential Russian aggression expected in the fairly near future.
New Russian commander seems more clued up than the last and in their latest push is using a 4 pronged mutually supporting attack rather than the single unsupported movements favoured previously. 

Waltzing

#144
Uke's lost some Pat launchers that were travelling in day time. That Pat system in the east close to the front line lost 2 as a drone found it and the Ugle bear sent a big missle.

Thats the end of the expensive system close to the front lines...

Without it the eastern front is now exposed again if UKE cant find some old 200's to move forward from old museums...

https://english.nv.ua/nation/former-sbu-officer-on-ukraine-losing-two-patriot-launchers-50400270.html


what looked to be a smart move by the UKE's military turned out to be silly.. you cant expose those systems close to the front lines.

Air power is what counters that and the west has FAILED to supply the hardware and the situation is a stale mate on the ground with the UKE's losing the battle.

Its a thin line by the looks of it.

No F16 till july and only 6 ....




BlackPeter

Quote from: Waltzing on Mar 13, 2024, 05:35 AMUke's lost some Pat launchers that were travelling in day time. That Pat system in the east close to the front line lost 2 as a drone found it and the Ugle bear sent a big missle.

Thats the end of the expensive system close to the front lines...

Without it the eastern front is now exposed again if UKE cant find some old 200's to move forward from old museums...

https://english.nv.ua/nation/former-sbu-officer-on-ukraine-losing-two-patriot-launchers-50400270.html


what looked to be a smart move by the UKE's military turned out to be silly.. you cant expose those systems close to the front lines.

Air power is what counters that and the west has FAILED to supply the hardware and the situation is a stale mate on the ground with the UKE's losing the battle.

Its a thin line by the looks of it.

No F16 till july and only 6 ....




Hmm - there are normally eight launchers to every battery, i.e. 2 launchers doesn't sound that bad ... unless its their last two :);

But admittedly - moving them in broad daylight close to enemy lines appears to be either pretty desperate or pretty stupid.

In the good old times (when this system was developed) the troops used to be pretty neurotic about being able to completely conceal the system. But hey, who needs (untraceable) glas fibre communication between the system knots if we parade the system in broad daylight for anybody to see.

Sigh ...

Maybe the Israelis could help, they do have plenty of these launchers, but hold on - they need them at the moment to control the fires they fuelled themselves.

Waltzing

Yup that guy in Israel is hell bent on flattening the GA GA's...

Anyway france could step in but they have a vote in the general assembly and if La Pen and Trump comes to power it goodnight nurse for ukraine....

its a bleak looking future in europes east.

Germany  and UK to step in and save europe?

 

BlackPeter

Quote from: Waltzing on Mar 13, 2024, 10:39 AMYup that guy in Israel is hell bent on flattening the GA GA's...

Anyway france could step in but they have a vote in the general assembly and if La Pen and Trump comes to power it goodnight nurse for ukraine....

its a bleak looking future in europes east.

Germany  and UK to step in and save europe?

 

Good question. Not sure though the Bundeswehr is currently battle ready (well, it isn't), but yes, there is a historic example of ramping them up within something like 5 years. Whether this works in a democracy as well depends just on political will and the motivation of the people, I suppose. Some more adventures from the current Russian strongman might well help to speed that up.

Waltzing

There was a previous moment in time when the UK and Germany joined in battle at waterloo....

Saving europe...