AIR-Air New Zealand Limited

Started by Mr Cashflow, Jun 25, 2022, 08:39 PM

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Onemootpoint

More competition coming soon on an exclusive AIR route - Perth. As it is the current route is served by a wet lease (I believe) and not up to the usual standard of AIR. Until October apparently.


Malaysian airline Batik Air to take on Air NZ

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/300886405/malaysian-airline-batik-air-to-take-on-air-nz

Basil

Singapore Airlines brings their superbly fitted out A380 back into service on the Auckland route.
Just look at the caliber of their first class suites. Paywalled.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/capacity-boost-as-singapore-airlines-brings-airbus-a380-back-to-auckland/OVRALDV6EBDRXL2WXT42CPLGB4/

Onemootpoint

Quote from: Basil on May 24, 2023, 03:53 PMSingapore Airlines brings their superbly fitted out A380 back into service on the Auckland route.
Just look at the caliber of their first class suites. Paywalled.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/capacity-boost-as-singapore-airlines-brings-airbus-a380-back-to-auckland/OVRALDV6EBDRXL2WXT42CPLGB4/

....and a non-paywalled version from a competitor which may or may not contain similar info..... :)

Poet

Quote from: Basil on May 24, 2023, 03:53 PMSingapore Airlines brings their superbly fitted out A380 back into service on the Auckland route.
Just look at the caliber of their first class suites. Paywalled.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/capacity-boost-as-singapore-airlines-brings-airbus-a380-back-to-auckland/OVRALDV6EBDRXL2WXT42CPLGB4/

A380 definitely a larger calibre than a 787 by about 15%

Onemootpoint

A problem AIR has in some (not all) planes is the fit out. The B777's have been brought back and newer planes are not due until later. Those older planes have really dated fit outs, are noisier than A380's or B787's, etc.

The wet lease on the Perth route doesn't help either.

And AIR now will also have to deal with competition on routes it had for itself for a while eg Perth and New York.

Having said that, I do believe with flying increasing (more business and tourists, students, etc) worldwide including NZ there could be some upside.

May not be smooth flying though.

Waltzing

" are noisier "

and i though it was just me and my hearing aids....

oh thats right i havnt got them yet...


Basil

Just as well they're not weighing some fat Beagle as that would push the average up lol

Crackity

Air New Zealand has reclaimed the crown of the world's best airline.

The safety and product rating website AirlineRatings.com has unveiled its awards for 2023, which sees the national carrier take the title back from Qatar Airways.



There ya go - it's all good again -  8)


Bought back in yet Basil?

Basil

#189
Oh well then, we better back the truck up first thing Tuesday.  How could those people who make that decision possibly be wrong  ;)
Wonder if any of them tried to telephone the call center during Covid or get a refund lol
Must say I think the Singapore first class product looks absolutely sublime.  If you couldn't join the mile high club on a flight in a first-class suite with your partner on that airline, it's time for a trade-in lol
https://www.airlineratings.com/news/passenger-news/singapore-airlines-best-first-class-for-2023/

Waltzing

Apparently JET STAR got no stars but NZ could soon replace those call centres with AI regen... in fact id say that most companies are going to try to cut P&L costs by the use of information generating services...

Its only a matter of time before this is not a JOKE...



Basil

#191
http://nzx-prod-s7fsd7f98s.s3-website-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/attachments/AIR/412718/396114.pdf
This is bound to go down well with my good mate Crackity's breakfast this morning.
At least $580m WOW.
That last paragraph is interesting and no doubt, not a surprise to anyone who takes and interest in these things.
I think it's clear that going forward into FY24, their ability to price gouge customers on international routes will be significantly reduced.

Waltzing


Crackity

Quote from: Basil on Jun 08, 2023, 09:44 AMhttp://nzx-prod-s7fsd7f98s.s3-website-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/attachments/AIR/412718/396114.pdf
their ability to price gouge customers on international routes will be significantly reduced.


Surely you meant to say meet the market demand - price gouge is such an ugly word for the most respected or was it beloved airline in the world.

See the Napier to AK prices now Jetstar don't fly that route anymore 😂

Basil

#194
Implications of price gouging were strenuously denied by Greg Foran in a recent interview.  I think he took umbridge at the suggestion. Just for fun I did that mate.  Suppose I had to travel to Napier (to make it fair I picked one week from today) on business for the day.  Best priced flights Auckland to Napier timed to enable almost a full days work there were $264 each way.  I think Greg Foran mentioned in a recent interview "we're not a charity"  lol