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Waltzing

#285
Nov 12, 2023, 12:03 PM
"That's one helluva rocking of the legal boat. "

yes but who says it wasnt a "DUCK" in the first place and there is now questions in the legal houses over the supreme courts wisdom and decisions becuase there is no constitution covering many issues.

Now you might say there is Constitution in law and thats is why you get to study and pass those papers in your LLB or your other business studies and in fact as far back as the 1970's those papers were introduced even at business school.

ACT is merely setting the stage for a change of constitution to a repulbic re southern ireland...

Get over it people... the status Que may not last for ever and many of these discussions will have to move on...

Ferg

#286
Nov 12, 2023, 02:23 PM
The 3 waters fiasco is exactly the reason why we need to have these conversations around how the treaty is interpreted and applied.  We need to codify how it will work without being subject to debatable interpretations by whoever happens to be in power on the day.  Especially given the spurious interpretation mana whenua are to have half of the ownership/governance roles based on a 50/50 partnership.

Waltzing

#287
Nov 12, 2023, 03:42 PM Last Edit: Nov 12, 2023, 05:34 PM by Waltzing
Yep ... but apparebntly it will be CIVIL War or at least some flag pools being cut down at the very least...

Cant see Sir Winston or Seymour joining in and Whinny wants the M Seats to go....

Do you think all the new immigrants want to learn TM... no and they wont vote for 50/50....

Documents can now be put through ReGen AI and no longer need to be produced in English and TM. Northland council has already caused uproar saying it will produce multiple document in various languages.

Flag poles...  are there any left with NZ flags on them after the labour government took down all the flags?

Did not Willie burn all the NZ flags?

Bet they did not order any new ones!!

After they stole all the pipes they were going to replace the FLAGS!!!

That was the big one they did not want you to know... The Pipes were just the START!!!

Ferg

#288
Nov 12, 2023, 06:37 PM
Quote from: Waltzing on Nov 12, 2023, 03:42 PMAfter they stole all the pipes they were going to replace the FLAGS!!!

That was the big one they did not want you to know... The Pipes were just the START!!!

Interesting.  Tell me more.  Are you saying it was water, then the flag....and then more?  Have you got a reliable source for that?

Waltzing

#289
Nov 12, 2023, 06:51 PM Last Edit: Nov 13, 2023, 01:32 PM by Waltzing
At demonstration today or yesterday there were flags seen flying from the PLA offshoot of the Ao tera rower - Tribal Peoples Authority.

There was also seen flags from native tribal activist groups.  https://www.tribalnationsmaps.com/store/c42/Tribal_Flags.html

sorry wrong flags ..

https://natlib.govt.nz/blog/posts/the-flags-that-make-us 

who are they natives of .. Ao tera rower

Firstly how they got here;They rowed here... the whole sailing thing is not correct as the prevailing westerly would have blown them to south america unless then tacked heavily and for that you need to be able to navigate... of course they might have got a helping heading if they ran into a strong easterly but in april you can get a lot storms coming down from the pacific blowing towards the south west...

They got lucky and rowed!!! Not sure why they dont have an eight at the olympics.. anyway back to the coming Civil war.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/301007246/in-pictures-call-for-ceasefire-in-gaza-sees-thousands-take-to-auckland-streets

It all started with this suggested Tweet which set the flags flying ...

and apparently Terror is not Terror ... https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/israel-hamas-war-questions-over-why-ex-foriegn-minister-nanaia-mahutas-office-disagreed-with-advice-about-hamas-terror-tweet/SQSCITQYHNCQLH7LXCNNKOCKQM/

The ground swell  organisation that plans to steel the flags is lead by none other than ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8Sos3s-gHs

and then they will stir up civil unrest by playing Tams lastest movie up and down the country in every country hall they can book..

Its all a bit circumstantial but you just need to join the dots!! Follow the flags...

Untamed

#291
Nov 14, 2023, 08:20 PM

Waltzing

#292
Nov 15, 2023, 09:12 AM
Whinny is the side show for sure...

and hes the most experianced of the 3 at chaos...

But the other 3 are just as bad so it business as normal.

Untamed

#293
Nov 16, 2023, 11:33 AM Last Edit: Nov 16, 2023, 11:35 AM by Untamed
One would have thought there would be suitable meeting rooms available at local government department branches, which could have been used for these coalition talks, rather than spending (I assume) tax payer money on hotels.

BlackPeter

#294
Nov 16, 2023, 01:13 PM
Quote from: Untamed on Nov 16, 2023, 11:33 AMOne would have thought there would be suitable meeting rooms available at local government department branches, which could have been used for these coalition talks, rather than spending (I assume) tax payer money on hotels.

Well, at this stage Winnie is playing the tune and the other two have to dance to the music. What a spectacle. But I guess all three seem to prefer a nice hotel in Auckland to the beehive in Wellington.

Maybe the long talks are because they just can't agree on into whose Auckland electorate to move the new government?

Untamed

#295
Nov 16, 2023, 01:32 PM Last Edit: Nov 16, 2023, 10:50 PM by Untamed
Maybe, but in the meantime, most government department offices in Auckland will have meeting rooms, video conferencing facilities etc. If the three of them had used their brains and accepted that this three way coalition was the highly likely outcome, they could have acted like adults and got their heads together before the election, instead of making themselves look like a bunch of idiots with their "we will never sit at the table with [fill in the blank]" posturing.

They need to get it sorted. Christmas is around the corner and Kiwis deserve and need a heads up, if there are to be any policy actions or major changes, planned before the end of the year. 


Quote from: BlackPeter on Nov 16, 2023, 01:13 PMWell, at this stage Winnie is playing the tune and the other two have to dance to the music. What a spectacle. But I guess all three seem to prefer a nice hotel in Auckland to the beehive in Wellington.

Maybe the long talks are because they just can't agree on into whose Auckland electorate to move the new government?

kiwi2007

#296
Nov 16, 2023, 10:44 PM
Five weeks without a government !!
And no one, with the exception of the media, really noticed. ;D


Ferg

#297
Nov 16, 2023, 10:57 PM
Quote from: kiwi2007 on Nov 16, 2023, 10:44 PMFive weeks without a government !!
And most of that delay was due to the Electoral Commission so I'm not sure why some have their panties in a bunch given coalition negotiations would be significantly more difficult than counting votes.

Jay

#298
Nov 17, 2023, 07:37 AM
Hey Spain just decided on their PM when the election was back in July, so 2 weeks not so bad!

Hectorplains

#299
Nov 17, 2023, 05:57 PM
Quote from: Jay on Nov 17, 2023, 07:37 AMHey Spain just decided on their PM when the election was back in July, so 2 weeks not so bad!

God forbid that we do go the way of Spain and their ongoing political instability.  Since the economic crisis (2015) they have enjoyed multiple general elections, glacial processes around government formation, and a procession of weak governments. The Spanish party system has become highly polarized, with the rise of new parties on the extreme left and the extreme right. 

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