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Quote from: HAWKDOG on Oct 08, 2026, 08:55 AMYou may miss your old nissan when you get in a new vehicle and get bombarded by safety shite beeping and vibrating.
I currently don't own a vehicle, I have a work vehicle - I am looking ahead to when I don't have a fuel card its going to be a shock.
Chloe should give us some good incentives for solar when's she is finance minister.

Not against electric cars or solar hawkdog but swarbrick That's a scary thought & a possibility that could kill New Zealand off

Yes, Mike was a former director of PAZ. His present connection through this "sign" on the Rolleston fence seems most odd, I can't see him having a bar of the place if he knew that the former PAZ MD is involved.

Quote from: Otago K on Oct 08, 2026, 04:59 AMOK for me the one that currently catches my eye would be the Forthing EV offering, though potentially the hybrid. I've got it down for a 6 month review once the ANCAP rating assessment is done and some refinements for NZ open road driving conditions are in place. Might be the time to replace my 19 year old Nissan, along with some solar at home installation. Currently Christchurch is the only SI dealer though.

You may miss your old nissan when you get in a new vehicle and get bombarded by safety shite beeping and vibrating.
I currently don't own a vehicle, I have a work vehicle - I am looking ahead to when I don't have a fuel card its going to be a shock.
Chloe should give us some good incentives for solar when's she is finance minister.

Forbar's research on TWR has been excellent.

Quote from: Basil on Oct 07, 2026, 03:13 PM...................
Its a game of averages Hawkdog.  If you're making a decision regarding the new vehicle what do you expect the average fuel price to be for the term of the ownership.

People paying an extra say $15,000 for a medium sized EV ............  Who knows how reliable some of the new Chinese EV's will be and what the support for them will be like with spare parts and service ?...its a BIG unknown.

OK for me the one that currently catches my eye would be the Forthing EV offering, though potentially the hybrid. I've got it down for a 6 month review once the ANCAP rating assessment is done and some refinements for NZ open road driving conditions are in place. Might be the time to replace my 19 year old Nissan, along with some solar at home installation. Currently Christchurch is the only SI dealer though.

Not sure this belongs here but close enough, just adding to the convo in the TRA forum.

Read a big piece from Pinecone macro today on the electric stack, its interesting.  That is where the graphs i posted are taken from.

Attached another good exert.

I have always been a Toyota fan.  I am not a hybrid fan for the simple reason that you have to maintain 2 systems - you need to service the ice engine and you need to worry about the battery.   I have looked into the corolla cross its a great car.  Toyota is currently facing serious margin headwinds due to China taking over the car export market.

What a full electric allows is the ability to be independent from the ups and downs of fossil fuel import prices - especially on a small island country in the pacific.  And especially if you can charge at home on your own solar system.

"If you're making a decision regarding the new vehicle what do you expect the average fuel price to be for the term of the ownership." - I expect the price of solar energy to continue to fall and I expect the range of electric cars to increase.   I do not expect the price of petrol to ever be cheap in this country.
 In Canada I owned a 5.7L v8 Toyota Tundra - petrol was 1.17/litre and it got to minus 30 in the winter.  Here my longest drive is to the bach which is less than 200 km with a charging station halfway - and we get a few frosts. 

To be fair Forsyth Barr have been talking up TWR for the last couple of years, initially as part of their paid coverage arrangement which presumably TWR was paying for.  For all that, a target price of $2.60 is as high as I can recall.