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Started by Minimoke, Jul 29, 2022, 09:45 AM

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SemiStrongForm

Quote from: Left Field on Jun 25, 2024, 01:12 PMDare I say it, there may even be a scenario where A2M allow Synlait to go insolvent in order to bring the whole situation to a head. Insolvency would force the various takeover scenarios that have been endlessly discussed on here to a head. As well as opening up Synlait's assets, including Dunsandel that A2M wants, to possible acquisition.

This is a great point that I had potentially underweighted until now. This is a great opportunity for A2M to put some serious business issues behind them and allow them to refocus on their core business issues.

Minimoke

As an aside I note Synlait debt reported at 31 Jan 2024 was $559m. In today's announcement it is $585M

Left Field

NBR's Tim Hunter thinks "A2 Milk has SML's future in its hands" (paywalled article out today)

"The NZX listed milk processor faces bankruptcy if special meeting does not approve $130 million shareholder loan from Bright Dairy....."

"The difficulty lies not in new ideas... but in escaping from old ideas." (J M Keynes.)

Teitei

Quote from: Left Field on Jun 25, 2024, 07:04 PMNBR's Tim Hunter thinks "A2 Milk has SML's future in its hands" (paywalled article out today)

"The NZX listed milk processor faces bankruptcy if special meeting does not approve $130 million shareholder loan from Bright Dairy....."



Bankruptcy?

He needs to get the terminology right - bankruptcy refers to individuals.

Companies go into receivership or liquidation when they become insolvent.

Buzz

Quote from: Teitei on Jun 25, 2024, 07:13 PMBankruptcy?

He needs to get the terminology right - bankruptcy refers to individuals.

Companies go into receivership or liquidation when they become insolvent.

And that's the level of quality reporting from NBR? No wonder they struggle to get and maintain subscribers.
Age is not a good measure of ability

SemiStrongForm

Quote from: Buzz on Jun 25, 2024, 08:20 PMAnd that's the level of quality reporting from NBR? No wonder they struggle to get and maintain subscribers
Language aside Tim Hunter is the real deal.

Teitei

Quote from: SemiStrongForm on Jun 25, 2024, 08:51 PMLanguage aside Tim Hunter is the real deal.

Tim is indeed one of the best investigative business journos around.

His article though is nothing insightful beyond regurgitating what SML itself stated and what other news media reporters were saying.


Minimoke

#1027
Just to update on the market. SP opened at $0.28. Now trading at $0.27 which values the company at $59,000,000
Bonds 135%

Oops. $0.265, $57.9m

Oops $0.26 $$56.8m

Opps $0.255 $55.7m

Left Field

Quote from: Minimoke on Jun 26, 2024, 10:57 AMJust to update on the market. SP trading at $0.27 which values the company at $59,000
Bonds 135%

$59 mill.
"The difficulty lies not in new ideas... but in escaping from old ideas." (J M Keynes.)

Basil

Quote from: Minimoke on Jun 25, 2024, 02:30 PMAs an aside I note Synlait debt reported at 31 Jan 2024 was $559m. In today's announcement it is $585M
No doubt about it, strong growth there, debt growing at more than $5m per month !

Minimoke

Quote from: Left Field on Jun 26, 2024, 11:00 AM$59 mill.
Edited to correct, though would have been obvious in following lines. But now $0.25 or $54.6m

Minimoke

Quote from: Basil on Jun 26, 2024, 11:09 AMNo doubt about it, strong growth there, debt growing at more than $5m per month !
Had to pay that bond interest - and it was patently obvious they didn't have the cash for that.

Teitei

Quote from: Minimoke on Jun 26, 2024, 11:58 AMEdited to correct, though would have been obvious in following lines. But now $0.25 or $54.6m

Sp is cum-CR.

Looking forward to an even lower sp and the CR - going to be some serious $$$ to be made, just like with Sky TV.




Minimoke

Quote from: Teitei on Jun 26, 2024, 12:02 PMSp is cum-CR.

Looking forward to an even lower sp and the CR - going to be some serious $$$ to be made, just like with Sky TV.




You've been saying that for ages. But the capital raise isn't a new idea. Market has had plenty of time to adapt. I reckon the market is finally realising its better to get $0.25 in the hand now than $0.0025 on the books after the cap raise.

Breezy

Quote from: Minimoke on Jun 26, 2024, 12:12 PMYou've been saying that for ages. But the capital raise isn't a new idea. Market has had plenty of time to adapt. I reckon the market is finally realising its better to get $0.25 in the hand now than $0.0025 on the books after the cap raise.
I'm still waiting for the OCA CR he predicted yonks ago, broken clock mentality.