The Economy

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Waltzing

#75
Cant see the public service surviving the coming age of robots....

 This is what humans do to an eco system....

 Some say its capa pa pa it ism.... but really it probably just the people who can get control of it .....

single dimensional accounting models only reflect one aspect of the economy. But computer models now allow multi dimensional but  the creators and consumers of the accoutning models havnt caught up with technology yet.

if you privatise everything you would need an auditors office that is huge to control the out of control society...

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/a-48m-boat-ran-aground-on-my-familys-island-in-the-hauraki-gulf-its-the-least-of-our-worries-sue-neureuter/V5KUPEIS4BGCLAKM6LCMPYK7CA/

nothing much left of the gulf now... looks like they system failed the ocean...

Can AI platforms in the future monitor the environment but will it be ignored? Just like climate change is ignored...




Waltzing

#76
OFF TOPIC: Though the eco system is linked to the economy.

The state of eco system has a lightening rod in poetry too... The local writer who wrote about cook recently..

In Sam Neill doco about cook a local iwi representative  on the east coast said we celebrate the death of cook...

The poem at the centre of controvesay might well be seen historically and cultuirally in university circles as simple an extension of  juxta posed themes.

The wonders of western civilisation on the one hand and the death of the water around the GULF....

Look anscestors ...  maths and sciences good....  western out of control greed...  KILL COOK!!!

COOK in the poem may well simply be a representative of GREED = The dutch public company model and the private armies of the Dutch and English that accompanied it.  Wellington in india for exmple made a lot of money apparently. Cook by contrast did not return to cash in..

sorry if this offends anyone...


Waltzing

Someone is actually saying rate curs this year by the FED...

Is this the darkness before the sawn...

But here in NZ the GOVT hass lost support according to one poll...

Waltzing

This chart is interesting... the country is in recession while in 2019 the employment rate was lower..

IE is employment always the indicator of recession? maybe not .

Other factors can be at play...




Waltzing

They are planning on leaving... could the same happen here?  Just saw a decorator up sticks with family and depart the ditch to aussi...

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/01/opinions/trump-president-americans-emigrate-andelman/index.html

BlackPeter

Quote from: Waltzing on May 02, 2024, 06:40 PMThey are planning on leaving... could the same happen here?  Just saw a decorator up sticks with family and depart the ditch to aussi...

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/01/opinions/trump-president-americans-emigrate-andelman/index.html

We had neighbours from California who survived the last Trump period here in NZ and returned under Biden back to the US. Who knows, they well might be back next year?

I guess the problem is - if all the decent Americans emigrate under Trump - than, what does this mean for the people who stay?

Azz

Quote from: BlackPeter on May 03, 2024, 09:31 AMWe had neighbours from California who survived the last Trump period here in NZ and returned under Biden back to the US. Who knows, they well might be back next year?

I guess the problem is - if all the decent Americans emigrate under Trump - than, what does this mean for the people who stay?

What a disgusting and hateful way to talk about the 74 million people who voted for Trump in 2020.
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Waltzing

yes BP .... looks like the rest will leave for france!!!

reminds me of a book on the self here... "ill always have Paris"

Art Buchwald....  who des not have this book ...


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Waltzing

Signed the petition to sell TVNZ....

how many government departments could be listed on the NZX....

something needs to be done to fire up public listed business in NZ...



Waltzing


BlackPeter

Quote from: Waltzing on May 08, 2024, 09:24 AMhttps://www.interest.co.nz/public-policy/127641/brian-easton-wonders-whether-economy-another-long-stagnation-and-if-so-why

wasnt there wasnt supposed to be a take off after COVID?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bjzoh3iQJc

No worries - green shoots are apparently everywhere  :) ;

https://www.wsj.com/finance/wall-street-banking-green-shoots-bf90f0d8
(probably paywalled)

Maybe its just this small rock collection in the South Pacific still harbouring sourpusses ...

Waltzing

Thank goodness BP ...

please some greens!!!!

now where is the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxLWJ3iZLyg