Jarden v Direct Broking

[Fiordland Moose]

I'm an ASB Premium Securities client - the rates are materially better than the base advertised rates. After having that for a few years I was able to negotiate brokerage and FX rates directly with ASB which improved the offering. They have a dedicated support team for premium securities clients and I can get a trader on the phone ASAP if I need help nudging an order that gets caught in the value discovery process (relevant for small caps) or a better view of depth. Great service. ASB/CBA lag pretty much everyone for cash mgmt and on call account rates but I just don't keep any cash in mgmt accounts and use two on call accounts (savings on call and savings on call bonus) to maximise interest on anything not in a term or pie.

Use Jarden to help place larger, infrequent off market trades.

[Waltzing]

Here is the help to move you...

[Breezy]

Here is the help to move you...

Offer a new and improved design, are their web developers drunk or stoned or both? Just asking for a friend.

[Waltzing]

Just tone deaf one assumes...

great an association,,, hold a general meeting.. pass a resolution ....  protest with placards and throw cream cakes... only MR B will want to eat the cream cakes while cruising and say we are all wasting our time....

remember laywers and accountants make money by hiring more poeple to solve the paper war and the "opera person sings..."

Please feel free to add your own singer...

[KW]

Just give up on the NZX and move to the ASX, then you can use Interactive Brokers and discover what a real trading platform looks like 

[Minimoke]

Just give up on the NZX and move to the ASX, then you can use Interactive Brokers and discover what a real trading platform looks like 

Makes sense. More companies over there to choose from. Especially given Nz's current poor performance pretty much across the board.

[Waltzing]

If that is the case maybe NZ should adopt the Kanga Dollar as the currency as well...

does NZ need the Kiwi Dollar anymore...

Like europe has the Euro...

[Left Field]

To be fair.... after the initial shock, I've now spent a day and a half playing on the new site and I find there are some good points.

I like some of the news links and the new depth and daily trading info is much improved. More useful FA analysis than the old site too. No issues with speed (yet.)

My main issues are still the ones noted on #1 in this thread plus small teething issues like the TA analysis offers me 30 Month and 90 Month moving averages...... lol..... I suspect it is 30 Days not months etc.... but who knows!

That said I reckon it is worth persisting. Be interested in others thoughts as the roll out continues.

Jarden's seem to welcome pro-active  feedback....... well, so far!

[Waltzing]

Sounds like a year of farther refinements has made some progress then LF?

we are all ears for your findings LF.

[KW]

If that is the case maybe NZ should adopt the Kanga Dollar as the currency as well...

does NZ need the Kiwi Dollar anymore...

Like europe has the Euro...

I should mention that IB also pays 4.3% interest on cash in your broking account.

[Breezy]

To be fair.... after the initial shock, I've now spent a day and a half playing on the new site and I find there are some good points.

I like some of the news links and the new depth and daily trading info is much improved. More useful FA analysis than the old site too. No issues with speed (yet.)

My main issues are still the ones noted on #1 in this thread plus small teething issues like the TA analysis offers me 30 Month and 90 Month moving averages...... lol..... I suspect it is 30 Days not months etc.... but who knows!

That said I reckon it is worth persisting. Be interested in others thoughts as the roll out continues.

Jarden's seem to welcome pro-active  feedback....... well, so far!

Yeah/Nah just had a look and still crap, like i said if you hardly ever trade then it doesn't matter that you have to untangle all the spaghetti mess to do what you want to do, the old site is just so simple/clear and clean (Its actually a masterpiece by comparison)

[Arbroath]

I'm definitely thinking of moving platforms as the Jarden one is terrible.

Why is it an upgrade almost always is actually a downgrade. The teenagers call that gaslighting these days

[Waltzing]

The KISS principal went out the door and bling came in...

If you design the software the right way the user can assemble their own GUI VIEWS...

does this mean a poll should be set up on both sites and see if its has enough results to point it at the blind and deaf management at Jardens..

i really dont think they know they have customers.

I spoke to one of the management level once and the drip of arrogance could be herd over the phone...

Ice Stone  cold  dripping water ...

[Left Field]

Just give up on the NZX and move to the ASX, then you can use Interactive Brokers and discover what a real trading platform looks like 

Yeah right.....we all should leave NZ. Lock the doors. Turn off the lights. Future is Bright in Aussie.

No thanks.

[Henry Filth]

I was catapaulted into the new JardenDirect website the other day.

It's not very good, is it.

The login window presents me with a dropdown list of all the userIDs saved to my PC , from which I can select the appropriate user, or start typing the userID to shrink the dropdown list. Note that the JardenDirect userID is not the first item in the dropdown list.

Having selected the appropriate userID, I am then directed to a new window to enter my password.

There is no ability to select my landing page (Orders, Portfolio, Trades, Watchlists etc) for the current session, so I am directed to my default landing page, which is not necessarily appropriate for the current session.

My default landing page is "Watchlists", but I am confronted by a window asking me to complete four steps. Step two is to sign up for Shareclarity.

I don't want to sign up for Shareclarity., so I can never complete the four steps. And if I do click on what appears to be a link to join Shareclarity, nothing happens.So I scroll down and am presented with a button inviting me to join Shareclarity. I ignore this, and scroll on to the part of the page which shows my watchlists.

I do not have the ability to define a default watchlist, so the watchlist which I use least is displayed. So instead of my "default" watchlist being the second window, it's actually the fourth.

This is not progress.

Functionally, I appreciate that I have a lot of experience with the DirectBroking website, and the JardenDirect website contains all the functionality that I use (so far).

In a previous life, I used to do software for a living. I reckon that there's a good weeks worth of work here to simply document the presentation and usability issues. They're not going to pay me, so I'm not going to do it.

Who are my alternatives for NZX, NZDX, and Unlisted DIY trading - apart from ASB?