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A fascinating watch that looks at the long and short term data.  Long video but worth watching.

Massive dumps of snow in the South Island and on the ski fields, basically more than ever yet the scaremongerers are still bleating on about the snow disappearing. Only difference is its been coming late over the last few seasons but not less of it.

Quote from: Breezy on Sep 13, 2024, 10:51 AMMassive dumps of snow in the South Island and on the ski fields, basically more than ever yet the scaremongerers are still bleating on about the snow disappearing. Only difference is its been coming late over the last few seasons but not less of it.

I suggest you stop this non sense here and now. Climate change is a fact ... and you are well known for spreading long debunked and clapped out conspiracy theories. Your ilk managed to destroy the other forum with this nonsense, don't do the same with this one.

Just changing your avatar does not help.

And yes - its not hard to see all over the place plenty of evidence for climate change, but its hard to see if you keep both of your eyes firmly closed.

Firstly I will address your post, no where did I deny climate change but yes I question the extent of the man made side of things. I was talking about some i know saying the snow will lessen and not arrive eventually.
Secondly you seem to exhibit a certain nastiness in your posts and once you get a vendetta against someone you can never let it go, im not the first to notice this.

Sad story for dinos - Europe got this year more than its fair share from climate change:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/sep/18/floods-in-poland-and-wildfires-in-portugal-show-reality-of-climate-breakdown-says-eu

Quote from: BlackPeter on Sep 23, 2024, 11:00 AMSad story for dinos - Europe got this year more than its fair share from climate change:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/sep/18/floods-in-poland-and-wildfires-in-portugal-show-reality-of-climate-breakdown-says-eu

The EU equals Satan's mouthpiece.

Interesting - did some research on climate dinos ... but learned that even the Russians got it by now. Just imagine that - one of the most aggressive bullies in the world understands now the reality of climate change, just a small flock of climate dinos in NZ hasn't got the message yet.

https://archive-yaleglobal.yale.edu/content/russias-climate-change-turn-wall-street-journal

Quite sad .... and afraid even they will eventually go the way of the dodo.

Some of us still ignoring the signs of climate change in our own land - One in 200 yeas floods every other year are clearly just an unfortunate accident? And hey - don't we get more droughts and wild fires as compensation? So - all good?

Others can't ignore the problem anymore - and too many pay already for climate change with their life. Too bad? Or should we start to do something about it other than just shooting the messengers?

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/sep/23/malawi-climate-crisis-paying-with-our-lives-acc

Interesting - anybody knows how much humanity spends every year in subsidies just to make climate change worse?

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2024/09/global-warming-subsidies-butterfly-emergency-nature-climate/

Correct - it is US$2.6tn spent annually on subsidies that harm the environment

This is US$2,600 b or US$2,600,000m

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WOW - we clearly invest a lot to make the planet cooking ...

Quote from: BlackPeter on Sep 25, 2024, 10:05 AMSome of us still ignoring the signs of climate change in our own land - One in 200 yeas floods every other year are clearly just an unfortunate accident? And hey - don't we get more droughts and wild fires as compensation? So - all good?

Others can't ignore the problem anymore - and too many pay already for climate change with their life. Too bad? Or should we start to do something about it other than just shooting the messengers?

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/sep/23/malawi-climate-crisis-paying-with-our-lives-acc

The local press here went on about the recent Auckland floods as a one in two hundred year event until Ian Wishart did some research and pointed out a number of equivalent or greater scale events in various parts of the country in the late 19th century .  From memory he started out intending to review a longer period but ended up looking at only ten years because he was encountering so many heavy fall events.  Many of them were in sparsely populated areas and so were not well remembered  According to Wishart the NIWA database the press were using was filled with holes that no one was particularly fussed with filling in.  It was telling that the press stopped claiming the record rainfall after Wishart proved impossible to shake..

This sort of thing makes me a bit sceptical when such records are claimed.  Maybe it is true.  Maybe not.  Same sort of thing happens with reports of record forest fires in the U.S. when they are anything but records. 

I can deal with records so long as they are real...

Jeez - all these amazing one-offs seem to just chase each other ... unprecedented floodings in Europe, Africa next and now it is Hurricane Helene creating havoc in the South West of the US;

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/29/hurricane-helene-historic-flooding-global-heating-fema

The storm killed at least 69 people, according to state and local officials in South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina and Virginia. Officials feared still more bodies would be discovered.

But no worries, our resident dinos will tell us with popping eyes that nothing to see here - hurricanes' happen (and hey - they do).

FEMA should know a bit about this subject and they said that global heating made it worse, but hey, what would they know compared to our beloved climate dinos?

Never trust the science if you can find an anonymous nobody on the Internet saying something different ...

This guy has a different perspective.  I like that he argues his case without appeals to emotion like "too many pay already for climate change with their life".

And yes of course we should be adapting, it seems to me most of the money spent trying to change the climate would be better spent trying to adapt to it (as we know for sure that it works)

But all of the increase has been in less-serious events, whereas more deadly events are few and declining. The "rise" is due to technology and the global interconnectedness that allows much better reporting of ever-small events wherever they take place.

This is clear because the increase is seen in all categories of disasters measured — not only weather disasters but also geophysical disasters like volcanoes and earthquakes, and technological disasters like train de-railings. Not even radical climate activists claim that climate change is causing more trains to de-rail or more volcanoes to explode.

https://www.thetelegraph.com/opinion/article/why-truth-weather-disasters-matters-bjorn-18806809.php

Well, yes - it is emotional to talk about people brutally transferred from life to death, isn't it? ... but hey, exactly this is happening while our climate dinos try to pull the wool over our eyes and argue until the cows come home:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/30/hurricane-helene-deaths-damage

More than 100 people died just in the last couple of days in the latest US hurricane ... and they are still counting the dead.

But yes, lets not focus on this individual event - I am sure somebody mentions soon that we always had hurricanes.

Humans messed up the weather across the globe - not just in in the country with the most boring weather ever (the UK) and in the Amazon rain forest, which we turn into a desert:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/sep/26/britain-tropical-rain-parched-amazon-new-norms-messed-up-climate

The good thing is - as soon as we set new standards, these problems are not any more extraordinary ... so, sure - nothing to see here for the dinos.

You do realise that (way) less people than ever are losing their lives to weather events? And that 9-10 times more people succumb to cold than to heat? 

I am not even sure what point you are arguing, it seems like some sort of strawman based on a deep belief?

p.s. apologies to the other posters for inadvertently ruining the light hearted tone of this thread, some of those early posts were most amusing!  Come back!