Strict Threads

[Administrator]

Howdy everybody. As some of you might have noticed, the wheels fell off in the OCA thread once again. As this seems to keep happening, I have designated the thread with the "Strict" label. This label may be applied from time to time going forward to troubled threads for securities that have declined significantly in recent times. Posters in "Strict" threads may be very underwater and more sensitive to negative sentiment, requiring tighter standards to prevent problems occurring.

Moderation in the OCA thread and others marked "Strict" will be much less forgiving, and penalties applied for posts in these threads will apply site wide.

Now, some of you may wonder "can I post something negative in a Strict thread?". Yes. You absolutely can and it is encouraged to provide CONSTRUCTIVE difference of opinion. However, posts that contain very little information or useful thoughts will be more likely to be removed. Frequent repetitive posting of the same information or thoughts is also more likely to be removed. If your posts are frequently removed from a "Strict" thread, you may start to receive warnings that could eventually lead to temporary posting suspension. If you are a user of a "Strict" thread, please make use of the report button where you think it necessary to help focus moderation on specific posts.

If you have a problem with this, I strongly suggest you avoid posting in "Strict" threads. It is unfortunate to have to this as I don't enjoy the idea of stifling one side of a debate, but some of you have shown blatant disregard for keeping the peace. I am open to discussing this here (preferable) or in private message.

[mistaTea]

Howdy everybody. As some of you might have noticed, the wheels fell off in the OCA thread once again. As this seems to keep happening, I have designated the thread with the "Strict" label. This label may be applied from time to time going forward to troubled threads for securities that have declined significantly in recent times. Posters in "Strict" threads may be very underwater and more sensitive to negative sentiment, requiring tighter standards to prevent problems occurring.

Moderation in the OCA thread and others marked "Strict" will be much less forgiving, and penalties applied for posts in these threads will apply site wide.

Now, some of you may wonder "can I post something negative in a Strict thread?". Yes. You absolutely can and it is encouraged to provide CONSTRUCTIVE difference of opinion. However, posts that contain very little information or useful thoughts will be more likely to be removed. Frequent repetitive posting of the same information or thoughts is also more likely to be removed. If your posts are frequently removed from a "Strict" thread, you may start to receive warnings that could eventually lead to temporary posting suspension. If you are a user of a "Strict" thread, please make use of the report button where you think it necessary to help focus moderation on specific posts.

If you have a problem with this, I strongly suggest you avoid posting in "Strict" threads. It is unfortunate to have to this as I don't enjoy the idea of stifling one side of a debate, but some of you have shown blatant disregard for keeping the peace. I am open to discussing this here (preferable) or in private message.

I think it is a reasonable expectation that all of us remain respectful in discussions on this site (something I have personally fallen short of on more than one occasion). Not sure what has been happening on the OCA thread, but clearly a lot of tension which isn't great.

The only thing I would add is that we need to be careful about worrying about who is 'under water' (and therefore 'sensitive' to negative posts).

Of course debates need to remain respectful, but if someone is posting a frankly worded rebuke of the organisation then I couldn't give a damn who is showing a loss on OCA or any other stock. Those who have made an investment that hasn't worked out need to do some self reflection too on why they are allowing other posters to make them feel angry.

Nobody can make you feel angry or miserable other than yourself.

That's my 2 cents anyway. It is self-evident we need to behave and show respect, but a sad day when Daddy has to come in and supervise with a "zero tolerance" lens which is sure to ruffle a lot of feathers given that lens must, by definition, be subjective.

[Untamed]

I don't believe the "strict" label is intended to stop negative commentary on any company. I would think it is more about reminding people that bringing up someone's historical, investing related, traumas, is not acceptable. As Shining Star commented in the OCA thread, the stories we may have been party to here or elsewhere, are not our stories to share. Constantly dragging them back up, is not only potentially triggering, but it shows a lack of empathy.

I see the "strict" label as a good reminder to be cautious about how we (yes, me included) word our posts. Most things can be worded in such a way that they still convey the message, but do not directly trigger or make someone else feel bad.

The only thing I would add is that we need to be careful about worrying about who is 'under water' (and therefore 'sensitive' to negative posts).

[mistaTea]

I don't believe the "strict" label is intended to stop negative commentary on any company. I would think it is more about reminding people that bringing up someone's historical, investing related, traumas, is not acceptable. As Shining Star commented in the OCA thread, the stories we may have been party to here or elsewhere, are not our stories to share. Constantly dragging them back up, is not only potentially triggering, but it shows a lack of empathy.

I see the "strict" label as a good reminder to be cautious about how we (yes, me included) word our posts. Most things can be worded in such a way that they still convey the message, but do not directly trigger or make someone else feel bad.

I do applaud Admin for making this effort to keep things civil.

I have been on both sides of 'uncivil' commentary, and neither made me feel very good.

Just adding a word of caution that we need to be careful of unintended consequences (which are usually impossible to predict and only become 'obvious' in retrospect).

[Teitei]

Bravo.

Meant sincerely.

[KW]

It is only through the pain of suffering deep losses does one come to appreciate the Great Truth of share market investing  ....
"don't drink and buy shares in a downtrend, you bloody idiot" 

And if I find myself holding a share that has broken trend, I sell it immediately.  Your mental health will be so much better for it.  The threads are so much nicer on the stuff that is going up in price 

[Crackity]

It is only through the pain of suffering deep losses does one come to appreciate the Great Truth of share market investing  ....
"don't drink and buy shares in a downtrend, you bloody idiot" 

And if one finds oneself holding a share that has broken trend, sell it immediately.  Your mental health will be so much better for it.  The threads are so much nicer on the stuff that is going up in price 

The best lessons are expensive

[Whome]

The best lessons are expensive

The best lesson I learnt was the discipline to 'act, don't just react' to a share as KW says has broken trend. I view the cost of brokerage to get out as cheap insurance compared to the potential loss of capital.

[Hectorplains]

The best lesson I learnt was the discipline to 'act, don't just react' to a share as KW says has broken trend. I view the cost of brokerage to get out as cheap insurance compared to the potential loss of capital.

Buffett, Lynch and Seykota... agree with you.

"One of the important things in stocks is that a stock does not know that you own it. You have all these feelings about it; You remember what you paid. You remember who told you about it – all these little things. And it doesn't give a damn. It just sits there. If a stock's at $50, somebody's paid $100 and feels terrible, somebody else has paid $10 and feels wonderful – all these feelings. And it has no impact whatsoever." Warren Buffett

"Never fall in love with a stock; always have an open mind." Peter Lynch

"Pride is a great banana peel, as are hope, fear and greed. My biggest slip-ups occurred shortly after I got emotionally involved with positions." Ed Seykota

[Administrator]

Hi all. Just a heads up, if the subject of a strict thread becomes the main topic of discussion in a non-strict thread, I will apply the same harshness to the relevant posts in that thread. Be civil & helpful. After a pretty long stint of no incidents things are starting to flare up again as of late, this is not going to continue. Don't make me ban you.